What Republicans Think About Climate Change — in Maps – The New York Times

“Over the past two decades, Republicans have grown increasingly doubtful about climate change, even as Democrats have grown increasingly convinced that it’s happening and is caused by humans. But recent research published in the journal Climatic Change reveals greater nuance in partisan climate opinions across the country.

“Pockets of Republicans, or even a plurality or majority, support some pro-climate issues,” said Matto Mildenberger, a professor of political science at the University of California Santa Barbara and lead author on the study. Researchers found variation in Democratic beliefs too, he said, but those findings were less politically relevant because a majority of Democrats tend to accept climate science and support related policies no matter where they live.The study’s maps show how Republican support swings between minority and majority, depending on geography and how questions are posed.”

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E.P.A. Announces Repeal of Major Obama-Era Carbon Emissions Rule – The New York Times

“What is the impact on emissions?While the repeal of the Clean Power Plan offers a reprieve for America’s coal industry, it is unlikely to halt the decline of coal altogether. Even in the absence of the rule, many utilities across the country have opted to shift to natural gas, wind and solar, driven by cost concerns and state-level policies. Many states, like California and New York, are already moving ahead of the targets set by the Clean Power Plan as they develop their own climate policies.”

Make me vomit. Here are the three most recommended comments, all of which I heartily endorsed.

Mae B Haynes Wayzata MN 55391 20 hours ago

I’m too angry to write a reasoned comment. Trump is so jealous of Obama that, like a four year old, his only agenda … and it’s an obsession… is to “get back at him” by negating all the good Obama has done. I have never been so afraid for my country. All that comes to mind – and won’t go away – is the wish that Trump and his entire cabinet get to spend a three week, all expense paid vacation breathing the air that spews forth from coal powered chimneys, with Scott Pruitt leading the way.

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George Spring Lake, NJ 18 hours ago

As someone who worked as a research engineer for EPA at its birth in December, 1970, I am dismayed at how Pruitt is dismantling this critically important agency. However, despite the despicable actions of Pruitt, coal is dead, or at least is a dead man walking. The power industry knows this; even coal miners know this. The most Pruitt’s actions will do (and there is a terrible price in health and environmental degradation for them) is slow down the inevitable demise of coal. The country is also moving away from gasoline. The major auto makers, following the pioneering work of Tesla, have announced their intention to convert their offerings to fully electric vehicles. It is likely we will meet our goals under the Paris Climate Accord in spite of this administration. While the rest of the world is busy developing the technology for the post-fossil fuel world of the 21st century, Trump and his administration are busy turning the clock back to the 1950’s. Brilliant.

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C. Davison Alameda, CA 18 hours ago

“Hazard” is right. My heart is breaking. Let’s move back to smoggy air, dirty drinking water, rivers on fire. Let’s bring more unwanted children into the world and expedite removal of the ill by denying them easy access to health care. Let’s let private hands exploit our ancient, treasured Parks and Monuments at gig economy wages. Let’s put minorities and dissenters “in their place.” Let’s decimate more communities with storm damage. Let’s contaminate the world with malice and murder. How is this my country? I’m kneeling, too. @thefairelection

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Harrowing Storms May Move Climate Debate- if Not G.O.P. Leaders – The New York Times

For years, climate change activists have faced a wrenching dilemma: how to persuade people to care about a grave but seemingly far-off problem and win their support for policies that might pinch them immediately in utility bills and at the pump.But that calculus may be changing at a time when climatic chaos feels like a daily event rather than an airy abstraction, and storms powered by warming ocean waters wreak havoc on the mainland United States. Americans have spent weeks riveted by television footage of wrecked neighborhoods, displaced families, flattened Caribbean islands and submerged cities from Houston to Jacksonville.“The conversation is shifting,” said Senator Brian Schatz, Democrat of Hawaii. “Because even if you don’t believe liberals, even if you don’t believe scientists, you can believe your own eyes.”

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William Case United States 25 minutes ago NYT Pick

The climate has been cooling since the Holocene Climate Optimum peaked between 7,500 to 5,000 years ago, when temperatures were much higher than today. The cooling is produced by the Milankovitch Cycle—predictable changes in the Earth’s orbit—which combines with changes in the tilt of the earth orbit and the present positioning of the continental plates to produce very long glacial periods (ice ages) and very short interglacial periods (warming periods). The glacial periods last millions of years while the interglacial periods average about 10,000 years. In geological time, the current interglacial period has a few minutes still to go. There have been other brief warming periods during the cool-down similar to the one we are now experiencing. The only difference is that manmade carbon emissions are now contributing to the present warming period. If manmade carbon emissions can prolong the current interglacial period, they may be doing as much good as harm. However, it is unlikely that manmade carbon emissions will offset the Milankovitch Cycle. The probability is that the ice sheets will soon return, once again covering the northern tier of the United States beneath kilometers of ice.

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David Lindsay Hamden, CT Pending Approval
William Case, cite your source or sources. If we cause the extinction of 80% of species on earth, as predicted by EO Wilson of Harvard and others, the human species might be one of them. We do not have several thousand years to exacerbate the overheating of the planet, before the next cooling period.
If we melt most of earth’s ice in the next few hundred years, the wars that might ensue from a 100+ foot sea level rise might do in most of the human race as well.

States Dare to Think Big on Climate Change – The New York Times

“The one bright spot amid the generally gloomy news about climate change, and the Trump administration’s resistance to doing anything about it, is the determination of a number of state governments to take action on their own.

California, as usual, has commanded the headlines on this score, having just strengthened its commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Now the nine Northeastern states that form the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative have done much the same, in a further rebuke to the know-littles and do-nothings like Scott Pruitt, the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, who are now calling the shots on climate policy in Washington.

The nine states, including Connecticut, Massachusetts and New York, last week agreed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from power plants an additional 30 percent by 2030, on top of the 40 percent cut they have already achieved since the program began in 2009. R.G.G.I., as the initiative is known, was the nation’s first multistate greenhouse gas initiative. From the beginning (and despite the defection of New Jersey’s Gov. Chris Christie), it has had the backing of governors from both parties. More important, it has quietly achieved substantial emissions reductions at little cost to the states’ economies or to their consumers.”

What Exxon Mobil Didn’t Say About Climate Change – The New York Times

“A year ago we took up this challenge. We have read all of the documents, analyzed them according to established social science methods, and made up our minds. Today, we are publishing the results of our peer-reviewed analysis in the journal Environmental Research Letters. To our knowledge, this is the first academic, empirical analysis of Exxon Mobil’s 40-year history of climate change communications. (Our research was funded by Harvard University Faculty Development Funds and by the Rockefeller Family Fund, which also helped finance the reporting by Inside Climate News and the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, which published its examination of Exxon Mobil with The Los Angeles Times.)

Our findings are clear: Exxon Mobil misled the public about the state of climate science and its implications. Available documents show a systematic, quantifiable discrepancy between what Exxon Mobil’s scientists and executives discussed about climate change in private and in academic circles, and what it presented to the general public.”

 Climate Lessons from California – by Noah S. Diffenbaugh – NYT

“Stanford, Calif. — California faces serious risks from climate change. Some are already being felt, like the severe heat this summer and recent episodes of extremely low snowpack in the mountains, which the state depends on for much of its water. Those are among the key messages in a new climate science report now under review in the White House. The good news is that California has been working hard to catch up with the climate change that has already happened, and to get ahead of what is still to come.

The past five years have painted a clear picture of what is in store for California, according to numerous scientific studies that underpin the new assessment: Rising temperatures will bring more frequent and severe hot spells, intensifying heat stress; more precipitation will fall as rain rather than snow, increasing storm water runoff; snow that does fall will melt earlier in the year, leaving less for the warm, dry season; and more moisture will be drawn out of soils and vegetation, increasing stress on crops and ecosystems. All of this will lead to more frequent and severe water deficits, punctuated by wet periods with increasing flood risk.”

The Axis of Climate Evil – by Paul Krugman – NYT

” “It’s Not Your Imagination: Summers Are Getting Hotter.” So read a recent headline in The Times, highlighting a decade-by-decade statistical analysis by climate expert James Hansen. “Most summers,” the analysis concluded, “are now either hot or extremely hot compared with the mid-20th century.”

So what else is new? At this point the evidence for human-caused global warming just keeps getting more overwhelming, and the plausible scenarios for the future — extreme weather events, rising sea levels, drought, and more — just keep getting scarier.In a rational world urgent action to limit climate change would be the overwhelming policy priority for governments everywhere.

But the U.S. government is, of course, now controlled by a party within which climate denial — rejecting not just scientific evidence but also obvious lived experience, and fiercely opposing any effort to slow the trend — has become a defining marker of tribal identity.”

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Charley James is a trusted commenter Minneapolis 8 hours ago

The Supreme Court bears some indirect responsibility, as well. Had it ruled rationally in the Citizens United case, the likes of the Koch Bros., Robert Mercer and their plutocrat friends on the wealthy, reactionary right would not have been able to control the Republican Party with their billions of dollars in contributions, PACs and other distorters of democracy.

After all, it’s awkward for any Republican office holder or candidate to take a few million in campaign contributions from those who profit from oil titans who profitably befoul our air and water, and then turn around and clamp regulations on those same people that will protect the planet from the harm they cause.

In the 1960s, William F. Buckley did his party and the nation a great service by purging the extremist John Birchers from the GOP. Sadly, there’s no one left on the right today to conduct a similar putsch and drive the Tea Partiers, the Freedom Caucuses, the Kochs and the Mercers from the ranks of the party. As a result, we are saddled with one political party made up almost entirely of know-nothings, reality deniers and anti-science galoots.

What may be even sadder is that there are people who vote for Republicans.

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Larry Eisenberg is a trusted commenter Medford, MA. 10 hours ago

You’re in an operating room,
A Surgeon with a Rump
Approaches you, scalpel in hand,
The Surgeon’s Donald Trump.

A nightmare that with any luck
Uncertain to take place
But now with Climate Change, alas,
Disaster, face to face.

We know the man’s an idiot
Dumbest kid in his class
And he’s the man that’s now in charge
Of destruction, en masse.

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Students- Cities and States Take the Climate Fight to Court – The New York Times

“Can the courts fix climate change?

Several groups and individuals around the United States have gone to court to try to do what the Trump administration has so far declined to do: confront the causes and effects of global warming.In California, two counties and a city recently sued 37 fossil fuel companies, seeking funds to cover the costs of dealing with a warming world. In Oregon, a federal lawsuit brought on behalf of young people is moving toward a February trial date, though the so-called children’s suit could be tossed out before that. And more than a dozen state attorneys general have sued to block Trump administration moves to roll back environmental regulations.

Efforts in the United States are part of a wave of litigation around the world, including a 2015 decision in which a court in the Netherlands ordered the Dutch government to toughen its climate policies; that case is under appeal. A 2017 report from the United Nations Environment Program found nearly 900 climate litigation suits in more than 20 countries. In Switzerland, a group of nearly 800 older women known as Senior Women for Climate Protection have sued their government over climate change. In New Zealand, a court recently heard a climate case brought by a law student, Sarah Lorraine Thomson; a decision is pending.”

California Shows How States Can Lead on Climate Change – The New York Times

“California, which has long been a pioneer in fighting climate change, renewed its commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions last week by extending, to 2030, its cap-and-trade program, which effectively puts a price on emissions. It’s a bold, bipartisan commitment that invites similarly ambitious policies from other states, and it sends a strong signal to the world that millions of Americans regard with utmost seriousness a threat the Trump administration refuses to acknowledge, let alone reckon with.”

“Attention now turns to the Northeast, where nine states, including New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts, are part of what is known as the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, which, like California’s effort, is a market-based cap-and-trade program that goes beyond state boundaries. So far, R.G.G.I., as it known for short, has helped reduce emissions from power plants in the region by 40 percent between 2008 and 2016, according to the Acadia Center, a research and public interest group. States are now negotiating the future of the program beyond 2020.”